The age old saying in rugby is a club is only as good as its second grade side.
It's therefore easy to see why so many within the Dubbo Kangaroos consider this year such a success given the club's second grade outfit is heading into Saturday's grand final at Orange as the unbeaten minor premiers.
A side featuring a number of players who coaches Paul Elliott and Mal Donald believe would walk into some other Blowes Clothing Cup first grade outfits, the Roos head into Saturday's decider against Bathurst Bulldogs as the favourites.
The quality of performances and strong run of results this year has created real belief in the side and now it's as simple as continuing that for one more week.
"We've got to take the confidence in our game into this one," Elliott said.
"We know what works. We've got to keep disciplined, it's big inf finals, and not give away any free points."
As is often the case in second grade, this year's Roos outfit is a strong mix of experience and youth.
Co-captains Joe Masters and Joe Finch have had a lot to do with the side's success this year but much of it comes from all the players involved buying into the effort in second grade.
"We've had a core squad now for a couple of years and they've contributed immensely to the culture and positive attitude at training," Elliott said.
"No-one gets down in the dumps if they don't make first grade but they've all been pushing for first grade.
"They understand success is fun in any grade."
The Roos' forward pack will again set the tone on Saturday, with the likes of Sam Clements, Rohan Leach, Jock Rodgers, Masters and youngsters like Sam Knaggs all playing a huge part in the side's success.
Knaggs is one of a number of young players who has stepped up into the side while Hamish Fuller is another, and his form in the centres earned him a first grade debut earlier this season.
Fuller has provided a real spark and has complimented some of the more experienced players in the backline like Finch and fullback Nick Harvey.
The Roos haven't played Bulldogs since beating them 17-15 back in round one as the second meeting between the two, scheduled to be played in Bathurst, was snowed out.
But Elliott and Donald got to have a look at Bulldogs during their semi-final win over Orange Emus at Apex Oval last weekend and they know what their side is in for.
"They're pretty dangerous so it will be a challenge," Elliott said.
"They'll fight to the end."
The second grade decider kicks off at Orange's Wade Park at 1.20pm.